Bush Condems China's Human right's

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I applaud George Bush for speaking out against the terrible human rights issue's in China , it's a pity Ireland and other Country's did not do the same as President George W Bush.
I personally think the Olympics should not be there at all until they treat their own people like human being's should be treated .
 
dodo said:
I applaud George Bush for speaking out against the terrible human rights issue's in China , it's a pity Ireland and other Country's did not do the same as President George W Bush.
I personally think the Olympics should not be there at all until they treat their own people like human being's should be treated .
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It's a bit rich coming from him don't you think?
 
I applaud George Bush for speaking out against the terrible human rights issue's in China , it's a pity Ireland and other Country's did not do the same as President George W Bush.
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Lip service

Actions speak louder than words.
 
DavyJones said:
It's a bit rich coming from him don't you think?
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What does America do that is in any way comparable to what China does?
Our position is one of utter cowardice on almost all issues of human rights on all fronts so we are in no position to wag our cowardly hypocritical finger at anyone.
 
Purple said:
What does America do that is in any way comparable to what China does?
Our position is one of utter cowardice on almost all issues of human rights on all fronts so we are in no position to wag our cowardly hypocritical finger at anyone.
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It's not comparable but different and just as bad.

How many people in Iraq have died since 1990, between embargo and war. .5million? 1 million? a lot.

How many innocent lives have been lost in Afghanistan?

The US are directly responible for hundreds of thousands of murders in the world.

And what about Guantánamo bay, held without trail for years on end.How many camps do the US have like that worldwide?

With a little research I could probably write a book on the crimes against humanity that the US have inflicted on the world.
 
What does America do that is in any way comparable to what China does?
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Waterboarding

Our position is one of utter cowardice on almost all issues of human rights on all fronts so we are in no position to wag our cowardly hypocritical finger at anyone.
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Cowardice? What about Free Derry, 1969?, or the hunger strikes?, or the Irish war of independence for that matter.
 
cole said:
Not sure if China executes mentally retarded people but does.
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We don't have a clue who China executes but going by the estimated numbers (>1000/year) I'd say the execute every type of people.

I'm with Purple on this one. Sure Gitmo is a disgrace but what has happened in the past 8 years is the exception not the rule. It's pretty much guaranteed that whoever gets into the WH next Jan will close Gitmo.

Waterboarding a handful of people is wrong and should be condemned but it's not comparable to restricting the freedom of expression, freedom of congregation, access to information, (and a 101 other human right abuses) for over 1 billion people
 
Texas is not America. There is no federal death penalty in USA.

I suspect that the US State Department cleared their President's statement with the Chinese before it was uttered.
 
TarfHead said:
Texas is not America. There is no federal death penalty in USA.
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I'm not sure what your point is but [broken link removed] states in the US have the death penalty. There is also a [broken link removed] death penalty.
 
diarmuidc said:
We don't have a clue who China executes but going by the estimated numbers (>1000/year) I'd say the execute every type of people.

I'm with Purple on this one. Sure Gitmo is a disgrace but what has happened in the past 8 years is the exception not the rule. It's pretty much guaranteed that whoever gets into the WH next Jan will close Gitmo.

Waterboarding a handful of people is wrong and should be condemned but it's not comparable to restricting the freedom of expression, freedom of congregation, access to information, (and a 101 other human right abuses) for over 1 billion people
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In the last 8 years? The US have been at that kind of thing since they formed. We have been more educated because of the "war on terror".

Bush said these words as he prepared to go to the country, he condemned, and accept their hospitality.
Can you tell me what else the bush administration has done besides words? words are easy. Any trade restrictings with China?

As far as I can see their as bad as each other, But saying fair play to the man is pushing it.

As for being cowards Purple, would you rather we cut ties with china, cos that would teach em. or what would you suggest?
 
There can be no serious debate. China is still in a different category than America.

The West shouldn't be overbearing with their criticism. The Chinese state is using the resentment of foreign interference to stir up nationalistic fervour.

It's time to let them get on with the games.

Are the Irish hypocrites? Most definitely.
 
Defence. We're neutral but happily sit under the American security umbrella.
Solution - we pay them to help defend us or send troops to support them.

Environment. We call on the Americans to lead while being amongst the most fossil fuel dependent and least forested country in Europe. Solution - we build nuclear and renewables and restore Ireland's natural vegetation to a large part of the country.

Sports. We support English club teams while delighting in the regular defeats of their national side. Solution we support both or neither.

Agriculture. Our farmers support trade policies that harm subsistence farmers in the poorest countries. Solution agree to fairer policies.

Source of the Celtic Tiger. We go on about being young and highly educated when low corporate taxes and the currency crisis in the early 90s is what really did it. Solution admit it.
 
Defence. We are neutral, I don't understand how the US protect us. From whom do we need protection?


Enviroment. They are world leaders, they should lead by example.
I do agree with your solutions.

Sports. Who's we? I like many people have no interest in foreign football teams. Enjoying a sporting rivals defeat happens even at a parish level the world over.

Agriculture. the farmers what everything their own way.

The celtic tiger has many different combinations of sources. Right on the tax, then there was subsidies, that attracted many muti national companies, and of course being pumped with EU money helped too.
 
jhegarty said:
I suspect if it wasn't for the US you would be tying that comment in German or Russian
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Or maybe Queens English! Using that logic they saved the whole world from damnation. Lets not forget they were fighting for their own freedoms too, Not for little old Ireland.
 
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