history will merely repeat itself..
we will be forced to vote again, and again, and again....
until we say yes....
democracy? i don't think so!
Mrs Doyle Democracy: Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on.......
I personally think there is a huge protest vote in the result, I get the impression that people are fed up with not just the Government but the "opposition" parties also, they are sick of the lack of true representation and the way citizens of Ireland are being treated. The arrogance has to stop, maybe they'll sit up and listen. IMO it's a wider issue than just the Lisbon Treaty referendum.
Fully agree - this is not a vote against Lisbon but rather a vote against the arogance of Fianna Fail.
We were all told 12 months ago ( especially by our now taoiseach ) that we had to vote Fianna Fail because no other party could safeguard the strong economy and the celtic tiger etc. What a big load of Fianna Fail Bullocks
FF have told us that Lisbon cannot be renogiated if we vote NO - Let's see if this is yet another lie
Fully agree - this is not a vote against Lisbon but rather a vote against the arogance of Fianna Fail.
He certainly seems to be trying to hang them. They provided the information as per their remit. It isn't their job to campaign for a yes vote. It is there job to provide a balanced referendum. FF in particular had the task of campaigning for a yes vote, the failure is theirs in particular.
Which were?It was a treaty that affected 500m people and should have been considered on its merits.
You should have spoiled your vote. Put a tick in both boxes.This view was not given to me legally as a third option to check a box apart from 'yes' and 'no' which said ' i dont know' or 'abstain' .
You should have spoiled your vote. Put a tick in both boxes.
One major mistake the 'Yes' side made, was to inform people to spoil votes if they were unsure, not just vote 'No'.
At the end of the day I didnt bother to vote as I felt neither 'Yes' nor 'No' sides deserved a vote in their favor. I dont like how in situations such as these there is noone impartial who can be trusted to put forward an unbiased argument in favor of the facts. I expressed my view by staying away. This view was not given to me legally as a third option to check a box apart from 'yes' and 'no' which said ' i dont know' or 'abstain' .
What I hope will now happen is for an opt out of any tax harmonisation to be included . In which case, speaking as an ordinary man I would do the EU elites a favor and vote yes.
Consider everything this country went through in the past with clauses and changes to divorce and abortion referendums, one after another simply because a few cranks were unhappy. Is it beyond the power of those who negotiated this treaty for us to
have added in a clause protecting our low corporation tax rate and/or our tax rate in general ?
The ordinary hard working man in the street knows this low tax rate is our bread and butter and gives us an advantage at this peripheral location in Europe far away from large populations and markets. We should have the right to decide how much of our taxes we are willing to allow be swallowed up by the state. If they want a 'yes' vote the elites should listen to this concern and act accordingly.
At the end of the day I didnt bother to vote as I felt neither 'Yes' nor 'No' sides deserved a vote in their favor. I dont like how in situations such as these there is noone impartial who can be trusted to put forward an unbiased argument in favor of the facts. I expressed my view by staying away. This view was not given to me legally as a third option to check a box apart from 'yes' and 'no' which said ' i dont know' or 'abstain' .
What I hope will now happen is for an opt out of any tax harmonisation to be included . In which case, speaking as an ordinary man I would do the EU elites a favor and vote yes.
Consider everything this country went through in the past with clauses and changes to divorce and abortion referendums, one after another simply because a few cranks were unhappy. Is it beyond the power of those who negotiated this treaty for us to
have added in a clause protecting our low corporation tax rate and/or our tax rate in general ?
The ordinary hard working man in the street knows this low tax rate is our bread and butter and gives us an advantage at this peripheral location in Europe far away from large populations and markets. We should have the right to decide how much of our taxes we are willing to allow be swallowed up by the state. If they want a 'yes' vote the elites should listen to this concern and act accordingly.