Review of Quangos in Ireland
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Should be looked at alright.
When the bould JOD was minister for Justice, what do you know? It was discovered the good people of Kerry were caring, articulate and humanitarian people.
As the Prison Visiting Committee was stacked with people from Kerry.
No doubt it happens elsewhere.
And it doesn't even make much difference in expenditure but why was the Department of the Fisheries decentralized to Cavan?
Even if it saved no money couldn't they select a county with a port? Symbolic reasons even. A county where people have lost people to the cruel sea.
Have we a Mac the Knife to sort this out?
When the bould JOD was minister for Justice, what do you know? It was discovered the good people of Kerry were caring, articulate and humanitarian people.
As the Prison Visiting Committee was stacked with people from Kerry.
No doubt it happens elsewhere.
And it doesn't even make much difference in expenditure but why was the Department of the Fisheries decentralized to Cavan?
Even if it saved no money couldn't they select a county with a port? Symbolic reasons even. A county where people have lost people to the cruel sea.
Have we a Mac the Knife to sort this out?
I'm from Kerry and I consider myself to be a caring, articulate and humanitarian person. Fecker never put me on the Committee. Damn him anyways!
We just like to talk about things in this Country. We don't like actually doing things apart from setting up review groups, committees, expert panels etc and then ignore the results. Every day in the UK, annoucements of huge cuts get made and the Country survives. Here, we talk about 4 year plans, budget day announcements etc. Not everything has to be announced on one day a year. If there are savings to be made and the Government have identified them, make the bloody savings.
Hopefully the movement on the VECs will be the start of something, especially as it goes farther then the Mccarthy report suggested. I thought it was interesting to hear local politicians bleeting about it and the effect it will have on services. I don't believe anyone is saying services will be cut, just organised more efficiently and as part of that, there will be less committees for councilers to sit on and get paid for talking
However, I'm sturggling to see how they can make real efficiency savings if quangos and the VECs are covered under the Croke Park agreement which say no compulsary redundancies
However, I'm sturggling to see how they can make real efficiency savings if quangos and the VECs are covered under the Croke Park agreement which say no compulsary redundancies
Brilliant. Can picture myself giving that stick at the next wedding.
True. What's the bets a HSE-Health Boards type solution will be implemented, where quangos will be merged so it looks like there's less of them, but nobody will be let go so it will be an exercise in window dressing? Then they'll be able to say - look, we only have a handful of quangos now! And there'll be a hundred thousand admins in there.
I don't know about Quangos, but I would be hopeful that numbers could be reduced in the general civil/public service by natural wastage over the next 4 to5 years. There are thousands that retire each year and with a bit of flexibility and a willingness of employees to do a bit more with less, the government should be able to streamline many areas.
Wouldn't that by itself be a good result? These are jobs for the boys with no great impact. Excellent opportunity to trim the fat.
The HSE is moving to Intergrated Servcies Areas. The ISA for the area I'm in will be Limerick, Clare and Tipp North. I believe the the plan is to have 8 or 9 of them in the country, so in other words back to the old health board structure.
I agree. The fate of this country was sealed when a government commissioned report (McCarthy) was ridiculed and pretty much ignored. I think I heard McCarthy on the radio a while back saying that less than 5% of his recommendations are being actually contemplated, let alone implemented.
Identify areas where savings are possible and start on implementation. Don't wait until some magical date in the future.
I would love to see this happen, but I imagine that same piece of paper would have the same doom as the McCarthy report.
The problem with this approach is that certain services are a lot more important than others and you could end up with too few resources in one area, but still too many in another. And it doesn't address the problem of reducing unnecessary or useless services or quangos.
I would love to know this too. Ireland has been on the brink of total collapse for 2 years. The new UK government has been in power for a few months. It is a picture perfect example of total incompetence. And I am not filled with any confidence when it comes to the opposition.
Not quite. They have a series of proposals, but few actual decisions as yet.
Yes indeed, and political incompetence has no boundaries. But they have taken one step further than Ireland has.