Public Service work to rule?
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Why not pay them all double their previous wages?
We'll at least have maybe three or four months of no messing about. It will also speed things up a bit. This death by a thousand cuts is very disheartening.
Why not pay them all double their previous wages?
We'll at least have maybe three or four months of no messing about. It will also speed things up a bit. This death by a thousand cuts is very disheartening.
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I have had several contacts with public service bodies in the past fortnight. All my business was transacted normally. From this I infer that if there is a work-to-rule in operation, it is not bringing everything to a juddering halt.
People in my sphere of acquaintance who are in the public service give me the impression that they are working normally. Some are angry or distressed about what has happened to their pay, their prospects for promotion, or their job security; but a greater number accept it with resignation.
I have had several contacts with public service bodies in the past fortnight. All my business was transacted normally. From this I infer that if there is a work-to-rule in operation, it is not bringing everything to a juddering halt.
People in my sphere of acquaintance who are in the public service give me the impression that they are working normally. Some are angry or distressed about what has happened to their pay, their prospects for promotion, or their job security; but a greater number accept it with resignation.
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In most cases, my transactions have been normal too - I deal with the PS literally every day - but there has been some intransigence/awkwardness etc that I wouldn't normally expect on 3 or 4 occasions over the past couple of weeks. All HSE.
I mentioned it to a colleague who replied that as far as they knew, there was a WTR in operation. I just don't know though.
In most cases, my transactions have been normal too - I deal with the PS literally every day - but there has been some intransigence/awkwardness etc that I wouldn't normally expect on 3 or 4 occasions over the past couple of weeks. All HSE.
I mentioned it to a colleague who replied that as far as they knew, there was a WTR in operation. I just don't know though.
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Yes, there is a work to rule going on but like Padraig said, most of my colleagues are just working normally.
There has been a couple of issues in my area recently that would have resulted in more hassle for ourselves than anything else, if we wanted to apply work-to-rule to the letter. From what I can see, most people just want to get on with their job.
I have heard there is supposed to be an escalation of it but I don't know what that means in real terms.
Yes, there is a work to rule going on but like Padraig said, most of my colleagues are just working normally.
There has been a couple of issues in my area recently that would have resulted in more hassle for ourselves than anything else, if we wanted to apply work-to-rule to the letter. From what I can see, most people just want to get on with their job.
I have heard there is supposed to be an escalation of it but I don't know what that means in real terms.
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There's definitely a work to rule among clerical grades in the civil service. I couldn't be positive about the wider public service. There are also counter closures and phone bans at different times.
There's definitely a work to rule among clerical grades in the civil service. I couldn't be positive about the wider public service. There are also counter closures and phone bans at different times.
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Our local hospital stated to a friend of mine that while she could try to get through to her 94 yr old granny who was in for a few days (no visitors allowed due to a vomiting bug) the nurses probably wouldn't answer in the ward because they were on a work to rule! This proved to be the case. The phone continued to ring out and no contact could be made with that ward.
Our local hospital stated to a friend of mine that while she could try to get through to her 94 yr old granny who was in for a few days (no visitors allowed due to a vomiting bug) the nurses probably wouldn't answer in the ward because they were on a work to rule! This proved to be the case. The phone continued to ring out and no contact could be made with that ward.
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Thanks - so now I know.
Not having a go at the PS but in our case anyway, it's proving to be very silly. As you say, it has worked out more inconvenient for the PS than for us on each occasion. The stances taken haven't even been logical. Hasn't cost us a cent so far - maybe 10 minutes extra admin.
As I said, we do more favours as a supplier than they do for us anyway so, if it turns out that a WTR attitude costs us financially, or in terms of time, we will simply apply our own WTR and claw any lost money back as there are plenty of ways of doing so - might even add in a few more % just for the inconvenience caused
Thanks - so now I know.
Not having a go at the PS but in our case anyway, it's proving to be very silly. As you say, it has worked out more inconvenient for the PS than for us on each occasion. The stances taken haven't even been logical. Hasn't cost us a cent so far - maybe 10 minutes extra admin.
As I said, we do more favours as a supplier than they do for us anyway so, if it turns out that a WTR attitude costs us financially, or in terms of time, we will simply apply our own WTR and claw any lost money back as there are plenty of ways of doing so - might even add in a few more % just for the inconvenience caused
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There is a work to rule in place in the Civil Service. It means you have to stick strictly to your own job and not do the work of anyone who's on mat leave, sick leave or anything like that. There is also limited industrial action in that we also can't answer phones on certain afternoons and can't prepare responses to Parliamentary Questions or representations from Ministers.
There is a work to rule in place in the Civil Service. It means you have to stick strictly to your own job and not do the work of anyone who's on mat leave, sick leave or anything like that. There is also limited industrial action in that we also can't answer phones on certain afternoons and can't prepare responses to Parliamentary Questions or representations from Ministers.
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Revenue 1890 numbers have been on and off for the past couple of weeks. Mostly afternoons there is nobody home. None of the Dublin tax offices are answering the phones this afternoon.
Tried to call 10 different numbers this morning in Revenue and the phone was only answered twice and hung up straight away.
Revenue 1890 numbers have been on and off for the past couple of weeks. Mostly afternoons there is nobody home. None of the Dublin tax offices are answering the phones this afternoon.
Tried to call 10 different numbers this morning in Revenue and the phone was only answered twice and hung up straight away.
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Well, then they wouldn't be taking part in the action. There's lots of people who aren't in the union and are going about business as usual. No one's shunning them or anything. They're entitled not to join a union if they don't want to.
Well, then they wouldn't be taking part in the action. There's lots of people who aren't in the union and are going about business as usual. No one's shunning them or anything. They're entitled not to join a union if they don't want to.
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The WTR is ongoing in the HSE and is being stepped up next week. Stuff like short work stoppages planned etc.
Impact intend to do an audit of vacant posts so I'm expecting some trouble. I have 2 vacant posts and the work is being cross covered as this was the practice here. We are behind on work though.
I think the unions are dissappointed with the impact so far but WTR like these takes ages to have any effect.
The WTR is ongoing in the HSE and is being stepped up next week. Stuff like short work stoppages planned etc.
Impact intend to do an audit of vacant posts so I'm expecting some trouble. I have 2 vacant posts and the work is being cross covered as this was the practice here. We are behind on work though.
I think the unions are dissappointed with the impact so far but WTR like these takes ages to have any effect.
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Apparently the CRO were having industrial action week before last.
Then last week I asked someone in the PRAI a question ( technical registration problem), was asked to fax in a letter and got a response saying 'The PRAI is not an advisory body'. I thought it was work to rule, but apparently not- just another bolshie civil servant. Usually the people in PRAI are brilliant, just got one of 'them ones'.
Apparently the CRO were having industrial action week before last.
Then last week I asked someone in the PRAI a question ( technical registration problem), was asked to fax in a letter and got a response saying 'The PRAI is not an advisory body'. I thought it was work to rule, but apparently not- just another bolshie civil servant. Usually the people in PRAI are brilliant, just got one of 'them ones'.