Where can you find out where your site boundary officially is?

You can't really- what is on the ground is real- any map you have merely describes it. The property deeds may be of some use-but not always.
There are certain rules of thumb regarding land features (eg ditches, streams, walls). Some surveyors specialise in the area- if you have an issue contact one.

To get a definitive answer you need to agree with a neighbour or escalate to court.
 
I know out site boundary in reality is not the same as on the planning permission map. we were changing the site into our name good few years later after building and needed a surveyor to mark map for folio. He got soo excited as he didnt realise field was families. He drew in measurements from the planning permission map.
 
Ordnance Survey office.
It will show you what the survey thinks is the boundary lines.
Whether you and the person beside you agree is a totally different matter.
They will charge you for a print of the map.
http://shop.osi.ie/shop/
 
kcb said:
Where can you find out where your site boundary officially is?
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Do you own the site? What do the deeds say?

In any case work with your solicitor and surveyor and check the folios and maps associated with the site with land registry.

Land Registry

The Land Registry was established in 1892 to provide a comprehensive and secure system of land registration. When title or ownership is registered in the Land Registry the deeds are filed in the Registry and all relevant particulars concerning the property and its ownership are entered on folios which form the registers maintained in the Land Registry. In conjunction with folios the Land Registry also maintains Land Registry maps. Both folios and maps are maintained in electronic form.

The core business of the Land Registry involves examining legal documents and related maps submitted as applications for registration, interpreting the legal effect of such documents and recording their legal impact on the registers and maps. Since the Irish land register is a public record, any person may inspect the folios and maps, on payment of the prescribed fees.

The title shown on the folio is guaranteed by the State which is bound to indemnify any person who suffers loss through a mistake made by the Land Registry. A purchaser therefore can accept the folio as evidence of title without having to read the relevant deeds.
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ajapale said:
Do you own the site? What do the deeds say?

In any case work with your solicitor and surveyor and check the folios and maps associated with the site with land registry.
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I assume the OP has an issue in particular with the boundary as opposed to the land itself. There is a caveat to any of the property registration authority maps called the "general boundary rule" which says thru give no guarantee about the boundary. It is possible for parties to agree and record them though.
 
I eventually got the OSI which cost about €40 and it is not much use really! It shows where the boundary is on a map but the map is very distant and lacks any detail.

Our street is one of these "open plans" with no obvious boundary between our patch of grass out the front and our neighbours.

There is no real issue. I will sort it out with the neighbour based on the OSI thing but it just means we need to still agree on where the actual line is, rather than just be told!
 
kcb,
To find your boundary is simple, visit the land registry website, www .prai. ie for leasehold and yellow for right of way etc.
There are complications however.

The land registry official line is that they record property and not boundaries that is why they will not stand over the location of a line on the map as being a boundary. There are very good technical and legal reasons for this. The UK land registry will let you apply for fixed defined boundaries but the Irish LR do not.

A couple of years ago the PRAI moved from digital, and some of the boundary lines got 'snapped' (up to 1m) to the underlying ordnance survey data, this caused some errors where boundaries are very defined on the ground but the PRAI assumed it coincided with the more prominent OSI data.

Also possible is more fundamental errors
Remember the Limerick residents who lost their driveways do to mapping errors (not by the Land registry)


It is possible to buy a land registry compliant map with the Ordnance survey information and the land registry boundaries overlaid, it can be zoomed in and dimensions put on also so you can check the dimensions on the map versus what you have on the ground. It is only using data provided by the land registry but together with the limitations of scale of maps and general accuracy it is the best data available.

Remember the Land registry only define property not boundaries and real boundaries are on the ground and not in a legal document or map.
 
kcb said:
Where can you find out where your site boundary officially is?
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This might help .

If you have your folio number ,example 40751
Go into LandDirect.ie
Put in your number as follows .
It will advise and show you to put in your County Ref ,for Donegal it is DL .

So put in DL40751.
You will get a clear Map of your site.

Hope this helps.
 
Land Registry maps are prepared at a large scale of 1:1000 (1mm = 1 metre), and as SOBrien states, define property, not the boundary.
The Title Deeds Map, which your Solicitor holds, should give you more information.
But even this may have been superceded over time, by what has happened on the ground with the actual boundaries
 
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