slip and fall

theengineer said:
did managment have prior notice of this yard being slipeary? yes
could this have been avoided ? yes
did they do all that was reasonably practical to avoid this? no
was there negligence? yes
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Did managment have prior notice of this yard being slippery?

Who knows.. did the employee report it? Was an investigation scheduled? Was a committee deciding on a course of action? Maybe it was icy due to a spill earlier.. an unreported spill.

Imcompetence isn't negligence...

It would be nice if the company offered some money towards the bills... don't think they will however.

I'd say the OP would win in the courts but I'm not sure... could be construed either way.. and it will defo cost a lot. OP, you'd really need photos if possible.
 
Imagine a fellow jumps over your garden wall to get his ball,he breaks his ankle on landing on a dog turd that you hadn't cleaned up,you don't have a dog,how much would you contribute towards his hospital care and rehabilitation,please answer this question,i am dying to know.
 
sparkeee said:
Imagine a fellow jumps over your garden wall to get his ball,he breaks his ankle on landing on a dog turd that you hadn't cleaned up,you don't have a dog,how much would you contribute towards his hospital care and rehabilitation,please answer this question,i am dying to know.
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In fairness to the engineer, this isn't the same. Someone entering your property for commercial purposes is completely different.

However, as others have pointed out since your reply engineer, there is absolutely no way you can make those claims based on the information supplied. Just because there was a slip it doesn't automatically mean there was negligence.
 
Think on this....





An Obituary printed in the London Times........ Interesting and sadly rather true. H.

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No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
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Knowing when to come in out of the rain; why the early bird gets the worm;
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She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

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sparkeee said:
the onus is still the same.
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The onus is not the same. The duty of care owed to both entrants is different. The duty of care owed to a trespasser (person jumping over your garden wall) is lower than that owed to a visitor (e.g a customer on a builders yard premises)

See the Occupiers Liability Act 1995 for further.

O and Iggy that piece of whatever is the biggest load of sentimental nonsense I've read in a while and doesnt assist the OP who has suffered an injury possibly caused by another's negligence.
 
sullyck said:
was collecting materials at a local building provider yard was walking across the yard and i slipped on some ice and hurt my sholder. One of the guys that works in the yard came over and asked if i was ok and told me that he had fallen the day before because of the ice,funny thing is that they sell the salt to grit foothpaths and roads in the store.

rang the store later as i had to leave work early could not stand the pain felt i was not being unreasonable asking for the cost of the doctor. Never rang me back so rang again and the manager was so rude telling me that even though i was on their property because it was ice they had no liability never even gave me a chance to say i only wanted the doctor s fee. Even an apology would have being nice but all i got was the feeling the i was trying to get compensation.
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Were you collecting the materials for yourself or for someone else?
Seems like a solictor should be instructed in this case. My advice call to a solictor today!!!
 
I wonder would people be so quick to advise going to a solicitor if it happened somewhere else..

The problem was ice on the ground during a freezing period...

If it happened in a supermarket carpark...?
If it happened on the street...?
If it happened in a friends house...?

I think that simply because someone has an accident doesn't automatically mean that someone else is responsible... the judge would likely want to see demonstrated that the injured party took precautions.. (obviously the business should also have done some things but as I say, the management may not have known)... but it may have been reasonable for the injured party to take more care, to examine the area for hazards etc etc.

I do feel for the OP, I am self-employed too and an injury would have major effects on me and my earnings. I think a claim may be successful... but I also think that many people could probably claim for many things.. the real winners are the solicitors on both sides...

Incidentally I have been injured due to probable negligence.. I crashed a motorbike after driving over frozen ice (years ago).. there was a burst pipe and thick ice 'downstream' from it.. thick ice... half an inch thick, covering half the road, on a slope, also on a corner and definitely coming from a burst pipe... I didn't bother claiming for that... (no serious injury but damaged bike, hurt body etc)

But the OP has to make his own decision.
 
The OP went out of his house in freezing conditions, What precautions did HE take ?

Appropriate footwear?
Padded clothing in case of a fall?
Extra vigilant when walking?
Called clients to try to postpone work until better weather?
extra checks of his van/car ?

Did he salt/grit the driveway of his own home?

Would he feel it was his responsability if the postman slipped in his driveway that morning?

Grow up please, You slipped, You hurt yourself, Get over it, It's not always someone elses fault. Nobody owes you money because you were not careful enough.
 
Can we please end this thread!!!! we seem to be going round in circles. Leave the post by TwoWheels as the final word.
 
TwoWheels said:
Would he feel it was his responsability if the postman slipped in his driveway that morning?
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He may not feel responsible but He would be responsible if the postman slipped on his drive way. he would need to show he did everything that was reasonably practical.
A tesco deliver driver slipped in a drive way and is sueing both his employer and house holder. FACT !!
 
I would like to thank everyone for their thoughts on this matter, both positive and negative points of veiw have merit and still dont know what to do. Shoulder is still painful and have missed a full weeks work. On the other hand no one died so i might just let it go. Still think its extremely bab the way i was treated after but guess thats how company s are these days. thanks again for all replies
 
Sullyck - sorry to hear about your unfortunate incident but i think you have a valid case on your hands

Under the Safety Health and Welfare at Work Act 2005 there is an onus on employers to protect non employee on their property.

Chapter 1 Part 12 states the following

Every employer shall manage and conduct his or her undertaking
in such a way as to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable,
that in the course of the work being carried on, individuals at the
place of work (not being his or her employees) are not exposed to​
risks to their safety, health or welfare.


 
I think these sort of claims are the problem nowadays with schools not playing contact sports and play areas shutting down.Sometimes it can be just your fault.
 
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