Cash flow problem in advance of pension

Discussion in 'Pensions' started by handtight, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. handtight

    handtight Frequent Poster

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    I have a Pension fund of roughly €1m and I'm due to retire in mid 2018. I was made redundant a few years back and essentially have been living on savings plus a redundancy payment. I still have family and mortgage commitments. Problem is I'm going to run out of cash in coming months and I'm wondering about my options.

    Even though my retirement date is mid 2018 could I apply for this to be brought forward by maybe 6 months?Alternatively could I use a statement of benefits, including lump sum as security for a bank loan?

    Any advise greatly appreciated as this is now becoming a serious worry and I don't have much in the way of financial advise.

    Not sure if it's relevant but my Pension fund is managed by Irish Life.
     
  2. thedaddyman

    thedaddyman Frequent Poster

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    I presume by your post that you have had confirmation that you have no entitlement to social welfare of any kind. Do you have any realistic employment options, even part time.
     
  3. North Star

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    Hi handtight,

    If you were made redundant and the pension of €1mio you refer to is from an Occupational Pension scheme relating to the same employment you were made redundant from, you may well be able to access the retirement benefits from age 50. This would involve receiving any tax free cash ( unless you waived your right to that as part of your redundancy) and you can then start drawing retirement income from an ARF/Annuity. You can also have the option of deferring taking the ARf income till age 60 - if that suited your needs.

    Pension regulations unfortunately are unnecessarily complicated, but for a fund of that size, not paying for expert advice is I believe a false economy. A good adviser will be able to either simplify the complexity or perhaps even use that complexity to your advantage. If as you say this is becoming a serious worry, I wouldn't delay in getting proper advice. I would also suggest that you pay for the advice on a fee basis, where you have full clarity on the costs upfront and no conflict of agenda.

    All the best Vincent
     
  4. Sarenco

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    Hi Handtight

    Could you tell us your age and whether the pension fund is an occupational pension scheme/buy out bond or a personal pension/PRSA?
     
  5. SBarrett

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    If it's a €1m pension, it's likely that you are in an occupational pension so you can access it from age 50. Some of the really old plans have penalties for accessing the funds before retirement but they will be relatively small at this stage and probably worth taking the hit if you're running out of cash.

    It takes about a month to get everything set up and in place. You can get a good chunk in tax free cash which will make life easy for you.


    Steven
    www.bluewaterfp.ie
     
  6. handtight

    handtight Frequent Poster

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    Hi

    Thanks all for the advise much appreciated.

    In response to sorrento, I'm age 63 and I am a member of a DC pension scheme.

    Regarding Social Welfare, this is something I'd prefer not to pursue right now, though for a period after redundancy I was paid JS benefit which ran out.

    Any kind of FT work is difficult right now due to family commitments.

    In reply to SBARRET, I did opt for a cash pay out however, on the qualification age, I have just realised I don't have the scheme handbook. My recollection is however that I can draw a Pension from age 50. I just wasn't sure about the costs involved in doing this. It's something of a relief to hear this can be set up in around a month.

    I think I should to take North Stars advise re professional advise on a fee basis.

    Thanks again to all to you guys for taking the time to post some solid advise.....
     
  7. Sarenco

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    In that case you should be able to access the fund whenever you want - I would suggest you just ring the scheme administrators to discuss your options.
     
  8. North Star

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    That's good news handtight. The only pity is that had you came to AAM earlier, you could have got this positive information before it became a worry for you.

    All the best Vincent
     
  9. SBarrett

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    At 63 in a DC scheme, there shouldn't be an issue in maturing your pension now. You may have taken the tax free cash as part of your redundancy package but at least you know there will be a regular cash flow now.

    Best of luck


    Steven
    www.bluewaterfp.ie