Opinion and Discussion: Household Charge.

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I agree. Its just one charge too many.
I pay everything I am supposed to ie telly, road tax, my own/family health insurance, other insurances.

But to pay this just makes me sick. I have to pay for the right to have my own house, that I am already paying a mortgage for!!!!!!!!!!
 
tester1 said:
I agree. Its just one charge too many.
I pay everything I am supposed to ie telly, road tax, my own/family health insurance, other insurances.

But to pay this just makes me sick. I have to pay for the right to have my own house, that I am already paying a mortgage for!!!!!!!!!!
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Call it a council tax or local authority charge then...make you feel better!
 
chrisboy said:
Can they deduct the household tax from the huge stamp duty i paid 5 years ago?
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I think people like you should get a discount on the new household charge, can't see it though. The previous property tax where people had to pay it up front by borrowing and paying interest on it was a crazy unfair system. A yearly charge will be much fairer. I know people paid tens of thousands in the last ten years but many more paid little or nothing. There's no easy way to square this circle.
 
I wonder is there a loophole for apartment owners where the estate has not been taken in charge by the Local Authority?

If the tax is for the LA and they are not maintaining the estate, can they charge owners for this non existent service?


The Minister shall not prescribe a list for the purposes of this
section unless he or she is satisfied that each of the developments
specified in the list is incomplete to a substantial extent, and the 20
Minister shall, for the purpose of so satisfying himself or herself,
have regard to all relevant circumstances, including—
.....
the extent to which roads, open spaces, car parks, sewers,
watermains, drains or other public facilities in the
development have been taken in charge by the local authority concerned, and
(h) where there is an agreement with the local authority con- 40
cerned relating to the maintenance of roads, open spaces,
car parks, sewers, watermains, drains or other public
facilities in the development, the extent to which there
has been compliance with the conditions for maintenance
under the agreement.
 
I wonder could non payment become in effect a charge on the property. Also i suspect that in event of a sale any outstanding sums due would have to be paid before a sale could close?
 
uptomyeyesin said:
I wonder is there a loophole for apartment owners where the estate has not been taken in charge by the Local Authority?

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I don't think it is a loophole, I think it is the plan.

You should get on to your TDs and suggest that the list includes any estate not taken in charge by the local authority. Or that the developer should be responsible for the charge until the local authority takes over.
 
How do they expect to enforce this charge centrally? LAs dont have
houses recorded other than on planning files.It will take an enormous
amount of work to get to the people who wont pay.As usual the law
abiding will feel they must pay but who is going to know how many dont.
 
Can anyone clarify then if payment is paid on this if?

a) Your house is part of a housing estate that has not been taken over by the local authority

b) your house is part of a development that is not fully finished and has not been taken over by the local authority and is still in the hands of the developer who has walked away and hasnt been near the place in over 3yrs
 
dewdrop said:
I wonder could non payment become in effect a charge on the property. Also i suspect that in event of a sale any outstanding sums due would have to be paid before a sale could close?
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zztop said:
How do they expect to enforce this charge centrally? LAs dont have
houses recorded other than on planning files.It will take an enormous
amount of work to get to the people who wont pay.As usual the law
abiding will feel they must pay but who is going to know how many dont.
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I imagine it would be done as dewdrop states above. Its teh same way they do the NPPR.
Non payment accrues an interest penalty monthly. This can add up the longer it is outstanding.
When you do go to sell then this is when it will bite as it will be found then in the searches

There is no way out of this...
 
Do you remember all those brave folk who swore that they'd continue to smoke their fags down their local pub?
 
It's going to be less than €2 a week, no new tax is nice but put it in perspective, it's a glass of beer a week!

I'm sure we'll have the numpties in PbP and the Socialist Party trying to rile up the masses into a non-payment campaign which will work as successfully as all their other hair-brained student union style schemes.

What a load of fuss about nothing.
 
dereko1969 said:
It's going to be less than €2 a week, no new tax is nice but put it in perspective, it's a glass of beer a week!
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Don't be fooled by the low charge in the first year. Wait 3 or 4 years and it'll be €20 or €30 per week. Just like what they did with the third level student registration charge, which has gone from something like €500 or €750 to 'only' €2250 in a few years.
 
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